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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://www.lioninvestor.com/jardin-smith-international/#comment-4018</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some Land Banking links including 3 from UK Government on Land Banking. None of these are Property Scam sites. Some are higly reputable newspaper sites.  Always independently check the company and land you are dealing with.  Be educated on your investments.

UK Consumer Protection Group
http://www.consumerdirect.gov.uk/watch_out/scams/landbanking/

FSA
http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pages/Library/Communication/Statements/2007/land_banking.shtml

UK Government News
http://nds.coi.gov.uk/environment/fullDetail.asp?ReleaseID=295797&#38;NewsAreaID=2&#38;NavigatedFromDepartment=True

UK Guardian - Top 10 Scams.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2008/aug/23/scamsandfraud.consumeraffairs1 

UK Times - 10 worst property investments ever.
http://timesbusiness.typepad.com/money_weblog/2008/06/post.html

UK Observer.
http://www.moneyobserver.com/content/sod%E2%80%99s-law-comes-little-too-late

Real people losing money.
http://www.getwokingham.co.uk/news/s/2035797_finch_land_investment_casualties_stack_up

Even Singapores own Mr Tan Kin Lian. 
http://tankinlian.blogspot.com/search?q=land+banking

And a quote on the use of Government quotes.

www.cpre.org.uk/filegrab/2the-great-landbanking-carve-up.pdf?ref=2672

"A common feature of nearly all landbanking company websites is an array of quotes from media news stories and the Government, stating that there is a shortage of housing, that household numbers are growing fast, and that more greenfield land will be used for housing in the future. Well known – or once well known – television personalities have been used to talk up the benefits of landbanking"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some Land Banking links including 3 from UK Government on Land Banking. None of these are Property Scam sites. Some are higly reputable newspaper sites.  Always independently check the company and land you are dealing with.  Be educated on your investments.</p>
<p>UK Consumer Protection Group<br />
<a href="http://www.consumerdirect.gov.uk/watch_out/scams/landbanking/" rel="nofollow">http://www.consumerdirect.gov.uk/watch_out/scams/landbanking/</a></p>
<p>FSA<br />
<a href="http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pages/Library/Communication/Statements/2007/land_banking.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pages/Library/Communication/Statements/2007/land_banking.shtml</a></p>
<p>UK Government News<br />
<a href="http://nds.coi.gov.uk/environment/fullDetail.asp?ReleaseID=295797&amp;NewsAreaID=2&amp;NavigatedFromDepartment=True" rel="nofollow">http://nds.coi.gov.uk/environment/fullDetail.asp?ReleaseID=295797&amp;NewsAreaID=2&amp;NavigatedFromDepartment=True</a></p>
<p>UK Guardian - Top 10 Scams.<br />
<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2008/aug/23/scamsandfraud.consumeraffairs1" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2008/aug/23/scamsandfraud.consumeraffairs1</a> </p>
<p>UK Times - 10 worst property investments ever.<br />
<a href="http://timesbusiness.typepad.com/money_weblog/2008/06/post.html" rel="nofollow">http://timesbusiness.typepad.com/money_weblog/2008/06/post.html</a></p>
<p>UK Observer.<br />
<a href="http://www.moneyobserver.com/content/sod%E2%80%99s-law-comes-little-too-late" rel="nofollow">http://www.moneyobserver.com/content/sod%E2%80%99s-law-comes-little-too-late</a></p>
<p>Real people losing money.<br />
<a href="http://www.getwokingham.co.uk/news/s/2035797_finch_land_investment_casualties_stack_up" rel="nofollow">http://www.getwokingham.co.uk/news/s/2035797_finch_land_investment_casualties_stack_up</a></p>
<p>Even Singapores own Mr Tan Kin Lian.<br />
<a href="http://tankinlian.blogspot.com/search?q=land+banking" rel="nofollow">http://tankinlian.blogspot.com/search?q=land+banking</a></p>
<p>And a quote on the use of Government quotes.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cpre.org.uk/filegrab/2the-great-landbanking-carve-up.pdf?ref=2672" rel="nofollow">http://www.cpre.org.uk/filegrab/2the-great-landbanking-carve-up.pdf?ref=2672</a></p>
<p>&#8220;A common feature of nearly all landbanking company websites is an array of quotes from media news stories and the Government, stating that there is a shortage of housing, that household numbers are growing fast, and that more greenfield land will be used for housing in the future. Well known – or once well known – television personalities have been used to talk up the benefits of landbanking&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://www.lioninvestor.com/jardin-smith-international/#comment-4001</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The staff also showed me some of the plans the UK govt has for the land that i am purchasing. It is reasonable, feasible and profitable to invest." "Info fr them are all fr UK govt sources too"

Please post your sources or we will suspect you work for Jardine Smith. Do you ?  Question.  If the Land was zoned for building why would they sell it to you in small plots in Singapore ?  With the exception of occasional compulsory purchase for roads etc the process by which land gets approved for building use by the UK Government is called planning permission.  Land zoned as green belt or agricultural is very cheap because it rarely gets permission. 

You can easily check with the local council in the UK on the status of Land and any prospective purchaser should do that before signing  anything.        If you would care to post details on the land plot you  say you purchased  I'd be happy to try and check it out for you from the UK and provide  the relevant UK council to contact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The staff also showed me some of the plans the UK govt has for the land that i am purchasing. It is reasonable, feasible and profitable to invest.&#8221; &#8220;Info fr them are all fr UK govt sources too&#8221;</p>
<p>Please post your sources or we will suspect you work for Jardine Smith. Do you ?  Question.  If the Land was zoned for building why would they sell it to you in small plots in Singapore ?  With the exception of occasional compulsory purchase for roads etc the process by which land gets approved for building use by the UK Government is called planning permission.  Land zoned as green belt or agricultural is very cheap because it rarely gets permission. </p>
<p>You can easily check with the local council in the UK on the status of Land and any prospective purchaser should do that before signing  anything.        If you would care to post details on the land plot you  say you purchased  I&#8217;d be happy to try and check it out for you from the UK and provide  the relevant UK council to contact.</p>
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		<title>By: Sophie</title>
		<link>http://www.lioninvestor.com/jardin-smith-international/#comment-2689</link>
		<dc:creator>Sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 03:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Johnny,

For your info, in case your friends didnt gv u the full pic.. the 4 times returns are residential land valuation fr the UK govt. Not figs cooked up by JSI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Johnny,</p>
<p>For your info, in case your friends didnt gv u the full pic.. the 4 times returns are residential land valuation fr the UK govt. Not figs cooked up by JSI.</p>
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		<title>By: Sophie</title>
		<link>http://www.lioninvestor.com/jardin-smith-international/#comment-2651</link>
		<dc:creator>Sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 12:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree w what Marie said. I attended their workshop before and was very impressed w their level of professionalism. As a careful investor, i posed all kinds of worst case scenario qns to them. They did NOT at all dodged any of my qns and in fact was v upfront w me and shared step by step hw the risks are being mitigated. Info fr them are all fr UK govt sources too.

I guess any savvy investor would noe that in any form of investment there're bound to be risk and its unavoidable. That's why its impt to noe hw the risk is being mitigated (for instance studying the location of the land carefully and noe what are the govt plans involved). 

I ran thru the property scam website and had laugh at it. Its so amateurish and a lot of the comments are biased and unfounded. In fact i trust info fr the govt when it comes to land invstmt ..period. 

So for any potential land investor out there.. do your homework. study the location, noe its potential, noe what u are in for. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree w what Marie said. I attended their workshop before and was very impressed w their level of professionalism. As a careful investor, i posed all kinds of worst case scenario qns to them. They did NOT at all dodged any of my qns and in fact was v upfront w me and shared step by step hw the risks are being mitigated. Info fr them are all fr UK govt sources too.</p>
<p>I guess any savvy investor would noe that in any form of investment there&#8217;re bound to be risk and its unavoidable. That&#8217;s why its impt to noe hw the risk is being mitigated (for instance studying the location of the land carefully and noe what are the govt plans involved). </p>
<p>I ran thru the property scam website and had laugh at it. Its so amateurish and a lot of the comments are biased and unfounded. In fact i trust info fr the govt when it comes to land invstmt ..period. </p>
<p>So for any potential land investor out there.. do your homework. study the location, noe its potential, noe what u are in for. <img src='http://www.lioninvestor.com/code/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
		<link>http://www.lioninvestor.com/jardin-smith-international/#comment-2590</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 

Recently, I was asked to attend one of Jardin Smith's seminar. At first after reading all the comments from the various posts a few weeks back, i was a little hesitant. But i decided to keep an open mind when i went. After hearing the presentations by the staff, i feel that some of the comments are very unjustified and prejudiced against JSI. 

I would suggest that if you are really interested in investments, you should do your homework and not just limit your mind to the negative comments that are posted on the websites. And unlike what Johnny said, they arent that hard selling. My experience was quite pleasant, in fact, i was impressed with their excellence. 

After doing some other relevant checks for myself, i decided to buy a small plot from them. The staff also showed me some of the plans the UK govt has for the land that i am purchasing. It is reasonable, feasible and profitable to invest. 

However, land investments, like any other investments, require you to do your checks and homework! So before u have the herd mentality and criticize with others, it would be highly beneficial to yourself to check the accurate details from authorized websites. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>
<p>Recently, I was asked to attend one of Jardin Smith&#8217;s seminar. At first after reading all the comments from the various posts a few weeks back, i was a little hesitant. But i decided to keep an open mind when i went. After hearing the presentations by the staff, i feel that some of the comments are very unjustified and prejudiced against JSI. </p>
<p>I would suggest that if you are really interested in investments, you should do your homework and not just limit your mind to the negative comments that are posted on the websites. And unlike what Johnny said, they arent that hard selling. My experience was quite pleasant, in fact, i was impressed with their excellence. </p>
<p>After doing some other relevant checks for myself, i decided to buy a small plot from them. The staff also showed me some of the plans the UK govt has for the land that i am purchasing. It is reasonable, feasible and profitable to invest. </p>
<p>However, land investments, like any other investments, require you to do your checks and homework! So before u have the herd mentality and criticize with others, it would be highly beneficial to yourself to check the accurate details from authorized websites. <img src='http://www.lioninvestor.com/code/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I recently attended a hotel exhibition by Jardin Smith in Singapore. The whole investment sounds like a good deal to me. But of course, before parting with my money, i did my due diligence and
found out that FSA only regulates companies that are operating in UK. very much like our MAS. I read in our local press that companies like Jardin Smith are not required to be regulated by MAS in Singapore. I checked on the title deed on the UK Government website and ownership is 100% authentic. I suggest you do your checks 


And oh, if you're a true investor, i wouldn't suggest that you count on propertyscam.org.uk to assist you in your decision making. Very few unbiased and objective comments i found there. Realised that most of the comments there are speculations and without concrete backings. Better check it with the company yourself. Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I recently attended a hotel exhibition by Jardin Smith in Singapore. The whole investment sounds like a good deal to me. But of course, before parting with my money, i did my due diligence and<br />
found out that FSA only regulates companies that are operating in UK. very much like our MAS. I read in our local press that companies like Jardin Smith are not required to be regulated by MAS in Singapore. I checked on the title deed on the UK Government website and ownership is 100% authentic. I suggest you do your checks </p>
<p>And oh, if you&#8217;re a true investor, i wouldn&#8217;t suggest that you count on propertyscam.org.uk to assist you in your decision making. Very few unbiased and objective comments i found there. Realised that most of the comments there are speculations and without concrete backings. Better check it with the company yourself. Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Toni</title>
		<link>http://www.lioninvestor.com/jardin-smith-international/#comment-468</link>
		<dc:creator>Toni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
check with www.fsa.gov.uk
don't know much about Jardine Smith International Best to check with www.fsa.gov.uk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
check with <a href="http://www.fsa.gov.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.fsa.gov.uk</a><br />
don&#8217;t know much about Jardine Smith International Best to check with <a href="http://www.fsa.gov.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.fsa.gov.uk</a></p>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 06:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The company sales pitches are sometime verging on the edge of hard selling as told to me by a friends who went to their seminars. And they actually quoted profits as high as 4 times the initial investment at the end of 4 yrs which is pretty ridiculous. 

And this is a very young and inexperienced company compared to ones such as walton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The company sales pitches are sometime verging on the edge of hard selling as told to me by a friends who went to their seminars. And they actually quoted profits as high as 4 times the initial investment at the end of 4 yrs which is pretty ridiculous. </p>
<p>And this is a very young and inexperienced company compared to ones such as walton.</p>
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		<title>By: dorai</title>
		<link>http://www.lioninvestor.com/jardin-smith-international/#comment-453</link>
		<dc:creator>dorai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 12:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lara,

Have you done due diligence before parting with your money?
go to www.propertyscam.org.uk 
Happy researching!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lara,</p>
<p>Have you done due diligence before parting with your money?<br />
go to <a href="http://www.propertyscam.org.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.propertyscam.org.uk</a><br />
Happy researching!</p>
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		<title>By: lioninvestor</title>
		<link>http://www.lioninvestor.com/jardin-smith-international/#comment-452</link>
		<dc:creator>lioninvestor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lara,

Thank you for your clarification.

CPF monies cannot be used for this kind of investments as they are not regulated by MAS.

The capital is also never protected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lara,</p>
<p>Thank you for your clarification.</p>
<p>CPF monies cannot be used for this kind of investments as they are not regulated by MAS.</p>
<p>The capital is also never protected.</p>
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